The one about the Chinese projectile seems like it could be pretty bad. > Most of the above seem more in the realm of commercial in confidence leaks, and or embarrassing information for a military than anything that's significant. My understanding is that it's been essential for a long time that tanks travel with significant infantry support. We're seeing "a lot of real truth's play out in Ukraine," but a lot of that seems to be about Russian organization and tactics, not necessarily "how great armored vehicles and tanks are."įor instance: early in the war I read some (US Marine Corps?) study that was online about the Russian "Battalion Tactical Group" that noted some deficiencies that may have made them far more vulnerable in Ukraine (IIRC too many tanks, too little infantry and support troops, too centralized command and control). ![]() > Right now we're seeing a lot of real truth's play out in Ukraine about just how great armored vehicles and tanks are. ![]() I imagine Pyrophoric is currently in pretty hot water with their superior.Whilst these are 'classified leaks' they are not exactly strategic leaks. "We make it very clear that we will not handle any source material unless it is publically available and fully declassified with the rights to prove that." Before the documents were removed, Smin1080p posted to say "last time such a document was shared that was claimed to be 'unclassified' it was in fact still classified and was confirmed that it should never have been shared". Remarkably, this appears to not be the first time this has happened. "We have made it very clear our stance on source material." One player in the thread, which is now closed to new comments, asked whether the suggested changes to the tank could be made despite the fact secret documents were used to suggest them.Ĭommunity manager Smin1080p stamped out that talk pretty quickly, saying: "There is no valid source material that can be used. All I try to do is point out the areas where they are incorrect." It is so complex in CR2's case that I don't completely blame Gaijin from getting it incorrect. "As I've stated a fair few times now the complexity of the construction is sometimes difficult to see/show with pictures. Pyrophoric had been active in the thread - hours prior to the post that included the image of the classified document, they posted to explain themselves: Since then it has amassed nearly 8000 replies spread across 319 pages. The thread that now has the astonished gaze of the internet trained squarely upon it began life in February 2019. The argument over War Thunder's Challenger 2 has been rumbling for over two years, ever since the tank was added to the game in March 2019. Every time you post this you place us (International representatives of Gaijin), especially any UK citizens, in hot water as the warning so helpfully states that unauthorised retention of a protected document is an offence." Pyrophoric posted this screenshot in their post, pointing out the inaccuracies in War Thunder's tank model. Of this you are already aware, as a service person you have signed a declaration that you understand the act and what actions it compels you to take. "By continuing to disseminate it you are in violation of the Official Secrets Act as stated by the warning on the cover of the document, an offence which can carry up to a 14 year prison sentence if prosecuted. "We have written confirmation from MoD that this document remains classified," reads the mod post. ![]() The images were removed, and a mod for War Thunder called Templar_ stepped in to explain the remarkable situation - that the developer received confirmation from the Ministry of Defence itself that the documents posted were classified. Also in Tidworth? The Royal Tank Regiment who operate Challenger 2 tanks. It appears the user who posted the classified image is in the British Army - as the UK Defence Journal points out, Pyrophoric lists their location as Tidworth, a garrison town in south-east Wiltshire, England. The trunnions support the rotor in the turret structure and the GCE sub components as previously stated are all mounted to the rotor." The trunnion's sit centrally of the rotor. The image isn't exactly to scale as its only meant to show the position of components relative to each other but it works for the point I'm trying to make here. "Linking those screenshots with the following edited image from the AESP's which is meant to show the relationship of the various components. ![]() Here's what the player posted alongside the document and two screenshots of the tank in War Thunder: Various parts were reportedly fully blacked out. According to a post by the UK Defence Journal, the image had its "UK Restricted" label crossed out, with an "UNCLASSIFIED" stamp added.
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